A structural fault in society owing to a design flaw in the electoral system
Michael Allan
mike at zelea.com
Sat Nov 5 20:48:05 EDT 2011
Welcome back Alex! It's been a while since you last posted. I hope
life's been treating you well.
> I am out in the field doing social research now building interest in
> direct democratic decision making and almost soleley through social
> contracts. ... My current question is "will further social
> production require the same solution (Vototola) or will I find
> untreated and/incompatible use cases and requirements?"
I guess Votorola can never be more than part of the overall technical
solution. I think a complete solution will always require multiple
projects (the more the better). Did you have a particular use case in
mind that might be difficult for us to cover? What sort of contacts
have you made?
Myself, I'm angling for contacts too; most recently here:
http://www.nycga.net/groups/political-and-electoral-reform/forum/topic/outcast/
Mike
Alex Rollin wrote:
> What I hear in the initial "there is a flaw" statement is a noticing
> that parties are poor mediators and that the people ought to be more
> directly involved in creating the ballot, that this "other" unmediated/
> less-mediated method is likely to restore "power" and interest in
> Democracy by simply removing a structural, systemic component of
> decision making that can result in tye procedural alienation of a
> person from the process and eventually their vote.
>
> I have previously experienced a similar insight during US primaries
> and I found the feeling of alienation, akin to what was described
> here, sufficiently powerful to rationalize my own dropping out until
> such a time as I could find a solution.
>
> My understanding of the drive behind Votorola and from what I have
> seen of the workings, most of which I have tested and viewed myself,
> is that Votorola does accomplish much disinternediation with a
> technical solution and that the group working on Votorola, and I
> consider myself a member of that group or at least in league with, is
> very interested in the production of the technical solution with a
> full acknowledgement and in the shining light of truth that the
> technical solution for a constantly open and changeable ballot with a
> never closing poll is in fact only a technical solution and therefore
> only a partial solution.
>
> Indeed I found Votorola technically sufficient even with the (current)
> lack of pollwiki replication. I am out in the field doing social
> research now building interest in direct democratic decision making
> and almost soleley through social contracts. Votorola answered my
> original question "can the issue I have previously encountered, a lack
> of a technical solution, be solved". My current question is "will
> further social production require the same solution (Vototola) or will
> I find untreated and/incompatible use cases and requirements?"
>
> Bests,
>
> Alex Rollin
> Http://commoning.com
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