[MG] Setting up a prize

[Michael Allan]

Thomas von der Elbe wrote:
> On Tue, 03 May 2011 11:07, Michael Allan wrote:
> > Here's an idea for titling the prize: (Or is this too blunt??)
> > http://metagovernment.org/wiki/User:Michael_Allan/G/p/prz
> >
> > I see Thomas has just beat my pledge.  I guess that would make it "the
> > Von der Elbe prize for e-democracy".  What do you think?  :-)
> 
> LOL
> 
> Its a fun idea somehow! But then the name of the prize will be
> changing constantly, which is strange. And also it is kind of a bit
> unfair to all the other contributers, isnt it? Why not call it
> something like "the open prize for e-democracy"? Open, because
> everybody can take part on both (all) sides.

"Open" it is:
http://metagovernment.org/wiki/User:Michael_Allan/G/p/prz

It's food for thought to consider how votes serve only as carriers for
money in this issue, and how the count of money (not votes) is what
matters most.  In other issues it's properly the voters who draft the
text, but here it's properly the donors.  No donors, no text.

Thomas von der Elbe wrote:
> Here is the our vote-cycle:
> 
> http://u.zelea.com:8080/v/w/Votespace?p=G!p!prz
> 
> it behaves a bit strange, but shows it all correctly! :-)

Yes, I saw.  I looked when it was still a cycle.  I guess if we *did*
find a use for cycles then we'd have to improve the UI.  That on top
of figuring out how to apply cycles uptree where logically they cannot
exist.  But never mind, I think I was on the wrong track.

-- 
Michael Allan

Toronto, +1 416-699-9528
http://zelea.com/


> On Wed, 04 May 2011 5:25, Michael Allan wrote:
> > A possible experiment: I just voted for Matteo:
> > http://u.zelea.com:8080/v/w/Votespace?u=Matteomartini72-YahooCom&p=G!p!prz
> > If Thomas votes for me, then we'll have a cycle of 3 candidates.  For
> > the cycle to hold together, the candidates would have to obey these
> > rules of thumb:
> >
> >   1. a) Never withdraw your vote (unvote).
> >      b) If your candidate breaks rule 1a, then vote around him.
> >      c) If your candidate breaks rule 1b, then vote around him.
> >         etc.
> >
> > What would happen, do you think?
> >
> >
> > Here's how vote cycles work: the pair of diagrams below shows a cycle
> > of 6 candidates (C-H) with 2 outside voters (V,W).  Vote flow is
> > clockwise.  The total number of votes cast is 8.  Each candidate
> > receives 7 votes, which is one less than the total cast.  He does not
> > receive his own vote.
> >
> >    (V)---(C)             (0)---(7)
> >        /     \   (W)         /     \   (0)
> >      (H)     (D) /         (7)     (7) /      |
> >       |       | /           |       | /       | vote flow
> >      (G)     (E)           (7)     (7)        V
> >        \     /               \     /
> >          (F)                   (7)
> >



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