[MG] Steps to the future: comparing the different ways forward

[Jacopo Tolja]

Dear Mike
do you have any video explaining the theory behind votorola?
I went trough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHwqT4j6sLo
Wile looking at http://zelea.com/project/votorola/home.html but I did not
understand exactly how is working.
We at airesis we did video presentation in italian, if I compare with some
of the explanation in votorola I belive and I am almost convinced that
Airesis proposal process is based on the Transitive voting as explained in
http://zelea.com/w/Stuff:Votorola/a/M2.
Looking forward to understand
Regards
j


On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Michael Allan <mike at zelea.com> wrote:

> I just discovered something neat that I want to share.  I now feel
> pretty sure that this trick of revealing the plans is the key to
> starting things in a big way.  I recall telling Christian last year
> that if we found the right start practice, then it would be a
> sure-fire thing; probably just one person could walk in and start it
> single-handedly.  So when I realized (just now) how easy this plan-
> revealing start would be (even if nobody else understood or helped or
> cared at first) then I figured it was probably *the* start key.
>
> But the neatest thing is how it's like a keystone between practice and
> theory, as though the two joined here in an arch.  To explain, see the
> material end (M0, "forever retelling the myth") in this table:
> http://zelea.com/project/votorola/home.html#moral
>
> Well, never mind *end*, it's clear that we can't even *start* without
> telling a myth.  Myth is what each of these plans (e.g. your own)
> aspires to be, because its steps tell the story of where we're all
> going, which makes it a myth by definition.  And clearly we can't move
> a finger, or bat an eye without it.  So all our practical frustrations
> in this little group (field, society, etc) are tied to what theory
> here reveals as the ultimate and eternal solution.  We can apply that
> solution now (i.e. tell our plans), or stay frozen and frustrated
> until we do.  Those are the alternatives.  I think it's neat how
> something so eye-poppingly big (in theory) meets us here in a small
> practice.  It's this meeting I call the "keystone".
>
> I'm happy too, because this brings the design I've been working on
> with others (notably Thomas and Christian) to a kind of completion.
> You might not see it, but (for whatever it's worth) it hangs together.
> I worked almost 7 years on it.  Parts of the theory are older, dating
> back to 1988.  So it's been a long haul for me.
>
> Mike
>
>
> (cc Votorola) original thread:
>
> http://metagovernment.org/pipermail/start_metagovernment.org/2014-June/006807.html
>
> I wrote:
> > > Suppose I told you there are 3 basic plans for moving forward in this
> > > field, and they look like this:
> > >
> > >     Plan A           Plan B           Plan C
> > >    ----------       ----------       ----------
> > >    1. Do this       1. Do this       1. Do this
> > >    2. Do that       2. Do that       2. Do that
> > >    3. Do this       3. Do this       3. Do this
> > >     ... etc          ... etc          ... etc
> > >
> > > Imagine those are real plans with all the steps filled in.  Would this
> > > information be useful to you?  Or could you easily do without it?
> > >
> > > If it would be useful, then I want to suggest a simple thing we can do
> > > in the context of Metagov that would help us not only in regard to the
> > > immediate problems of Metagov, but the entire field.  It hinges on the
> > > fact that Metagov is uniquely neutral ground; all other groups, tool
> > > makers, projects, companies and organizations are more-or-less locked
> > > into particular plans for moving forward.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael Allan
> > >
> > > Toronto, +1 416-699-9528
> > > http://zelea.com/
>
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