Release of first TalkTrack version and harvesting framework

Sun Nov 11 06:17:37 EST 2012

Hi Conseo!

wow, this is great! Everything is coming into shape more and more! :-)

Finally the talk-symbol in the link-track has a function too! I wasn't 
even really aware of it anymore, until now.

Is it also planned, to have the messages themselves in the 
email-list-archive on stage? ... Ah, just checked with the english list 
here, and yes, they are on stage. So I guess the german will be too 
soon. Wouldn't it be good then, if you click on the talk-symbol and the 
message page appeared right in front of you, instead of in a new tab!?

There must be some bug in there, because when I refresh your position 
page firefox gives me a strange feedback (1).
And when a message is pinned and I want to pin a voterof yours inthe 
vote-track another strange feedback (2).

I can't waitfor having this track running on Mikes server too,to have 
more messages to play with!

Thank you!
Thomas

(1) Wild exception: com.google.gwt.core.client.JavaScriptException: 
(TypeError): 
com_google_gwt_core_client_JavaScriptObject_personName_1_1devirtual$__Ljava_lang_Object_2Ljava_lang_String_2_maybeJsoInvocation_0.node 
is undefined
  stack: 
votorola_s_gwt_stage_vote_DifferenceStager_$restage__Lvotorola_s_gwt_stage_vote_DifferenceStager_2Lvotorola_s_gwt_stage_Stage_2Ljava_lang_String_2ZV at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:19488
votorola_s_gwt_stage_vote_DifferenceStager_DifferenceStager__Lvotorola_s_gwt_stage_vote_DifferenceLight_2Lvotorola_s_gwt_stage_Stage_2V at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:19517
votorola_s_gwt_stage_vote_DifferenceLight$1_initComplete__Lvotorola_s_gwt_stage_Stage_2ZV at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:19134
votorola_s_gwt_stage_TheatreInitializerC_initFromComplete__Lvotorola_s_gwt_stage_Stage_2ZV at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:15471
votorola_s_gwt_stage_Stage$InitByRestore_add__Lvotorola_s_gwt_stage_TheatreInitializer_2ZV at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:15183
votorola_s_gwt_stage_Stage$InitStarted_add__Lvotorola_s_gwt_stage_TheatreInitializer_2V at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:15161
votorola_s_gwt_stage_Stage_$addInitializer__Lvotorola_s_gwt_stage_Stage_2Lvotorola_s_gwt_stage_TheatreInitializer_2V at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:14610
votorola_s_gwt_stage_vote_DifferenceLight_$init__Lvotorola_s_gwt_stage_vote_DifferenceLight_2Lvotorola_s_gwt_stage_Stage_2V at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:14020
votorola_s_gwt_mediawiki_ShadowLight_ShadowLight__Lvotorola_s_gwt_mediawiki_DifferenceShadows_2Lvotorola_s_gwt_mediawiki_DifferenceShadowsV_2Lvotorola_s_gwt_stage_Stage_2V at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:14108
votorola_s_gwt_mediawiki_DifferenceShadower_$onSuccess__Lvotorola_s_gwt_mediawiki_DifferenceShadower_2Lcom_google_gwt_core_client_JavaScriptObject_2V at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:12876
votorola_s_gwt_mediawiki_DifferenceShadower_onSuccess__Ljava_lang_Object_2V at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:13036
com_google_gwt_jsonp_client_JsonpRequest_onSuccess__Ljava_lang_Object_2V at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:2933
@http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:2860
com_google_gwt_core_client_impl_Impl_apply__Ljava_lang_Object_2Ljava_lang_Object_2Ljava_lang_Object_2Ljava_lang_Object_2 at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:327
com_google_gwt_core_client_impl_Impl_entry0__Ljava_lang_Object_2Ljava_lang_Object_2Ljava_lang_Object_2Ljava_lang_Object_2 at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:358
@http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:343
@http://v.polyc0l0r.net:8080/v/wap?wCall=dDiff&dPoll=Mann%2Fp%2Furgar&dAnchor=4consensus+WebDe&dA=Julchen-68er-GmxDe(ThomasvonderElbe+GmxDe&dPairData&wNonce=kvs2rd&wCallback=__gwt_jsonp__.P7.onSuccess:1

  fileName: http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar
  lineNumber: 19488
     Unknown.anonymous (-1)
     Unknown.anonymous (-1)
     Unknown.anonymous (-1)

Consider re-running in devmode where a stack trace is output to the console.

(2) Wild exception: 
com.google.web.bindery.event.shared.UmbrellaException: One or more 
exceptions caught, see full set in UmbrellaException#getCauses
     Unknown.anonymous (-1)
     Unknown.anonymous (-1)
     Unknown.anonymous (-1)

Caused by:
com.google.gwt.core.client.JavaScriptException: (TypeError): 
com_google_gwt_core_client_JavaScriptObject_personName_1_1devirtual$__Ljava_lang_Object_2Ljava_lang_String_2_maybeJsoInvocation_0.node 
is undefined
  stack: 
votorola_s_gwt_stage_vote_DifferenceStager_$restage__Lvotorola_s_gwt_stage_vote_DifferenceStager_2Lvotorola_s_gwt_stage_Stage_2Ljava_lang_String_2ZV at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:19488
votorola_s_gwt_stage_vote_DifferenceStager_onPropertyChange__Lvotorola_g_web_gwt_event_PropertyChange_2V at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:19534
votorola_g_web_gwt_event_PropertyChange_dispatch__Lcom_google_gwt_event_shared_EventHandler_2V at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:12712
com_google_web_bindery_event_shared_SimpleEventBus_$doFire__Lcom_google_web_bindery_event_shared_SimpleEventBus_2Lcom_google_web_bindery_event_shared_Event_2Ljava_lang_Object_2V at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:2083
com_google_web_bindery_event_shared_SimpleEventBus_$fireEventFromSource__Lcom_google_web_bindery_event_shared_SimpleEventBus_2Lcom_google_web_bindery_event_shared_Event_2Ljava_lang_Object_2V at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:2133
votorola_s_gwt_stage_Stage_fireEvent__Lcom_google_gwt_event_shared_GwtEvent_2V at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:14846
votorola_g_web_gwt_event_DelayedEventGun_$execute__Lvotorola_g_web_gwt_event_DelayedEventGun_2V at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:12665
votorola_g_web_gwt_event_DelayedEventGun_execute__V at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:12682
votorola_g_web_gwt_event_CoalescingSchedulerS$4_execute__V at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:12651
com_google_gwt_core_client_impl_SchedulerImpl_runScheduledTasks__Lcom_google_gwt_core_client_JsArray_2Lcom_google_gwt_core_client_JsArray_2Lcom_google_gwt_core_client_JsArray_2 at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:512
com_google_gwt_core_client_impl_SchedulerImpl_$flushPostEventPumpCommands__Lcom_google_gwt_core_client_impl_SchedulerImpl_2V at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:427
com_google_gwt_core_client_impl_SchedulerImpl$Flusher_execute__Z at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:563
com_google_gwt_core_client_impl_SchedulerImpl_execute__Lcom_google_gwt_core_client_Scheduler$RepeatingCommand_2Z at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:459
com_google_gwt_core_client_impl_Impl_apply__Ljava_lang_Object_2Ljava_lang_Object_2Ljava_lang_Object_2Ljava_lang_Object_2 at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:327
com_google_gwt_core_client_impl_Impl_entry0__Ljava_lang_Object_2Ljava_lang_Object_2Ljava_lang_Object_2Ljava_lang_Object_2 at http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:358
@http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:343
@http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar:530

  fileName: http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar
  lineNumber: 19488    Unknown.anonymous (-1)
     Unknown.anonymous (-1)
     Unknown.anonymous (-1)

Consider re-running in devmode where a stack trace is output to the console.

On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:24, conseo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> puuh it took me so long to post an update, this has been almost ready for more
> than a month. I have hit some localisation bugs (and some more) in
> PipermailHarvester and had to fix them first. Now we support German, French,
> Spanish and English public pipermail archives. The API is multi-VM and
> multithreading ready (complete rewrite to my first attempt).
>
> With it I have finally finished a first version of the talk track as well and
> deployed it on my vote-server covering the area "Mann" (Mannheim). (1) This is
> effectively a stage 2 setup now. (2) Will probably post about it separately
> soon, once it is settled a bit more.
> The little rounded squares with the question mark is the talk track. There are
> few messages, since my area and the corresponding German list were only setup
> recently and Mike is waiting for my announcement before deploying it on
> zelea.com.
> Click one square to pin a post and adjust the stage, click again to deselect.
> The newest post is the one on the right side (for more details see JavaDocs
> (3)).
>
> To cover your own discussions:
>
> Just:
> 1) make sure the forum (mailing list archive) is defined in the wiki and
> publicly reachable. (4)
> 2) make sure the forum is set on your candidates page (5) or if you have none
> (you are endcandidate), yours.
> 3) once you send a message with a difference between you, your candidate or
> your covoters on the forum, just hit the "?" button on your position page to
> trigger an update and wait for 10s. It should show up then.
>
>
> If you don't have a poll-name selected, like on many wiki-pages, then you see
> messages for all polls on the voteserver (depending on which area(s) and
> forums it covers, mine only covers "Mann", Mike's the rest). On users' pages
> you see all messages of the user (currently none, because user pages are
> offered by zelea.com which doesn't have the TalkTrack yet). The selection and
> highlighting will be the real deal in visualising the discourse... ideas are
> very welcome!
>
> Btw. can we do something to clarify that this track contains discussion
> without cluttering the layout? What about the update button? I thought about
> triggering an update once you look at the newest post (select or even hover
> it), but this might be confusing.
>
> conseo
>
> (1) http://zelea.com/w/Mann/p/urgar
> (2) http://zelea.com/project/outcast/dep.xht#mul
> New German homepage is here: http://v.polyc0l0r.net/home.html
> (3) http://v.polyc0l0r.net/_/javadoc/votorola/s/gwt/stage/talk/TalkTrackV.html
>
> (4) like http://zelea.com/w/Stuff:Votorola_mailing_list
> (5) insert e.g. "{{forum|Votorola/mailing list de}}", like in
> http://zelea.com/w/User:4consensus_WebDe/Mann/p/urgar
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