Votorola stable release (and papers about the field)
Michael Allan
mike at zelea.com
Mon Jul 9 16:44:58 EDT 2012
Hi Peter,
Thank you for sharing these papers. I post to the list in case others
are interested.
Peter Zbornik said:
> Votorola got good scores in the review in the attachment - except
> from the development side (not being ready yet).
Andrea Cangialosi. 2011. Delegative democracy: is the
PiratenPartei liquid democracy proposal fit for Germany?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/83203862
Cangialosi uses Thomas's comparison. He adds, "The objectivity of
this comparison might be argued since the author is also involved in
Votorola's project [!]... I'll suggest considering also a deeper
technical analysis in the working paper [below]."
David Horbank. 2011. Liquid Democracy: Neue Formen direkter
Demokratie im Internetzeitalter.
http://www.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~graebe/Texte/Horbank-11.pdf
I discovered a couple of other interesting papers in Cangialosi's
references. I don't know how I missed these before:
Bryan Ford. 2002. Delegative democracy.
http://www.brynosaurus.com/deleg/deleg.pdf
James Green-Armytage. 2010. Voluntary delegation as the basis for
a future political system.
http://www.econ.ucsb.edu/~armytage/proxy2010.pdf
(more: http://www.econ.ucsb.edu/~armytage/voting/)
Green-Armytage's history of the ideas is the best I ever saw. I was
unaware of Miller's paper, for example.
James Miller. 1969. A Program for Direct and Proxy Voting in the
Legislative Process. Public Choice 7: 107-113.
> By the way (probably an other topic), one way to allow cycles in
> delegated votes and still being able to calculate the number of
> votes of each person is to use the page rank algorithm which google
> uses:
> http://chato.cl/papers/boldi_bonchi_castillo_vigna_2011_viscous_democracy_social_networks.pdf
Boldi et al. use something similar to Brin and Page's "dampening".
The vote loses strength as it goes from delegate to delegate. We have
a different approach where the vote is stopped and "held" before it
can cycle: http://zelea.com/project/votorola/d/theory.xht#cycle
We've been counting cycles for a while, but we never had a good way of
viewing them. The latest code has a slight improvement. I posted a
demo here: http://mail.zelea.com/list/votorola/2012-July/001392.html
The section about cycles refers to the "vote track" at the top of this
page: http://zelea.com/w/G/p/sandbox
You need Firefox, Chrome or something similar to see it. Please let
me know if it doesn't work for you.
Very best,
--
Michael Allan
Toronto, +1 416-699-9528
http://zelea.com/
Peter Zbornik said:
> Hi Michael,
>
> thanks for the short overview.
> The German pirate party is using LiquidFeedback a lot:
> http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/germany-s-pirate-party-seek-to-reinvent-politics-a-829451-2.htm<http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/germany-s-pirate-party-seek-to-reinvent-politics-a-829451-2.html>
> There will be a beta-release of v 2.0 soon (end of June).
> More info on the pirate party and LiquidFeedback:
> http://techpresident.com/news/wegov/22154/how-german-pirate-partys-liquid-democracy-works
> List of users of Liquid Democracy:
> http://liqd.net/en/schwerpunkte/anwendung/
> Votorola got good scores in the review in the attachment - except from the
> development side (not being ready yet).
>
> By the way (probably an other topic), one way to allow cycles in delegated
> votes and still being able to calculate the number of votes of each person
> is to use the page rank algorithm which google uses:
> http://chato.cl/papers/boldi_bonchi_castillo_vigna_2011_viscous_democracy_social_networks.pdf
> .
>
> I just subscribed to the votorola mailing list, so you can post this
> message there if you want.
>
> Best regards
> Peter Zborník
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