Use cases, social contacts and rolling forward

Michael Allan mike at zelea.com
Sun Nov 6 13:12:31 EST 2011


Dear Alex,

> ... I still think a separate pollserver, even if only for the sake
> of redundancy, would be useful.  At the same time a standard for the
> "vote" so people could use a microfrmat to post their "vote"
> wherever they want might be good, too.

I think both depend on vote mirroring.  Vote mirroring will be
important for this initiative, or whatever other first gets rolling:
http://www.nycga.net/groups/political-and-electoral-reform/forum/topic/outcast/

We now mostly say "vote-server", but we still say "pollwiki".

-- 
Michael Allan

Toronto, +1 416-699-9528
http://zelea.com/


Alex Rollin wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Michael Allan <mike at zelea.com> wrote:
> > Welcome back Alex!  It's been a while since you last posted.  I hope
> > life's been treating you well.
> >
> >>Alex Wrote:
> >>I am out in the field doing social research now building interest in
> >> direct democratic decision making and almost soleley through social
> >> contracts. ... My current question is "will further social
> >> production require the same solution (Vototola) or will I find
> >> untreated and/incompatible use cases and requirements?"
> >
> > I guess Votorola can never be more than part of the overall technical
> > solution.
> 
> Votorola is a huge part of the answer, from where I've been standing.
> I meant no critique or overstatement about the tool; simply that when
> I tested it for my use cases it was sufficient.
> 
> >Did you have a particular use case in mind that might be difficult for us to cover?
> 
> My use cases have remained constant for a couple years now, though I
> must say that the recent integration of money into the system has me
> interested.  Previously I made a separation in my head between the
> deliberation and sociaio-economic system, and this is/was a mistake,
> but, it takes a lot of thinking to integrate them.  I could make some
> additional cases, but, the basic use cases of creating "standing
> policy" and controlling a voter qualification list are the basic cases
> I was working with and those are handled well.  I still think a
> separate pollserver, even if only for the sake of redundancy, would be
> useful.  At the same time a standard for the "vote" so people could
> use a microfrmat to post their "vote" wherever they want might be
> good, too.
> 
> > What sort of contacts
> > have you made?
> 
> To date I am still working on cooperative business models, helping
> people by setting out plans and following through, and whoever decides
> to join in makes their way to a position of governance in a democracy.
>  At a certain point the business will be too big to manage without ICT
> tools, and I will continue to monitor Votorola to contribute aberrant
> use cases and labor nearer to the point where I will need a rather
> "controlled" system in the sense that I will be generating my own
> "qualified voter" lists.
> 
> 
> Alex



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