[MG] Coming to grips with success - communities and lateral extension
digitaldasein at gmail.com
Wed Jun 1 13:35:35 EDT 2011
Here's an experiment/community that would require votorola/drafting/pollwiki
I got to him reading an interesting article of the author of
(Macro)Wikinomics, Don Tapscott:
And take a look also at
http://edge.org/conversation/the-argumentative-theory to see deliberative
democracy from the Sperber's argumentative theory perspective.
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Michael Allan <mike at zelea.com> wrote:
> Here are some rough formalizations in the pollwiki of communities:
> I think the most direct path to success is:
> 1. Identify the communities.
> 2. Spread to them.
> We can start today. The result would be immediate success or failure.
> If it were failure (very likely), then we'd only need to identify the
> problem, solve it, and try again - eventually we'd succeed. There
> might be other paths to success, but none so immediate as this one; it
> comes to grips with the problematic of success itself, which is one of
> lateral extension. 
> That would place the initiative squarely on the social side. The
> leaders would be those who commit to action and stand out ahead of the
> technology. There is no other way forward at this stage. Can anyone
> see a fault in this logic? Or some other way forward?
> (technical stuff) I've identified some nuts and bolts that can safely
> be developed in advance: 
> a) Message harvesters for the different types of online community.
> Harvesters are the workhorses of crossforum theatre, and they'll
> be providing the metrics that feed the visualizations of lateral
> spread on which success depends.
> b) Communities are composed of people, ofc. We'll be visualizing
> this graphically. All we have ATM is a rough UI for data input:
> c) C says content is King. We can formalize thematic content and
> use it to visually interrelate:
> * People
> * Communities
> * Polls (issues)
> A folksonomy is probably the most flexible approach to start
> with. Again we already have a rough UI for the necessary data
> entry: http://www.zelea.com/w/Property:Topic
> Rudimentary queries, too:
>  Success depends on positioning the toolset (means) in the context
> of a desireable and feasible end. Our current lack of such a
> context is why we have no dedicated users (short of Thomas and I)
> to help in identifying the inevitable development problems.
> Whatever the *content* of the end, it must take the form of a
> lateral spread across many online communities. Other possible
> forms are either undesireable (no communities) or infeasible (one
> or a few).
> The tools (means) cannot be developed further without the close
> collaboration of at least 2 dedicated and skilled users. We need
> people who are both motivated and intelligent, which again calls
> for ends that are both desireable and feasible.
>  Some ideas here. I'm not sure it's necessary to read any of
> this, but for some reason I found it necessary to write:
> Michael Allan
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