[MG] Talk bubbles for crossforum theatre

Fri Apr 29 10:08:18 EDT 2011

I made a small example...
...its about "pizza slices" and about getting "rid of abbreviations" and
about "chicken perspective", but not about all the stuff I've given in the
example URL's of my previous message to this mailinglist.

It's also not perfect regarding accurate drawing, choosing colors that can
be read well because they do not compete with the background color.
There is much room for improvement. The main features are:
1. Shows taken path through the voting-tree (like
c:/programs/votorola/whatever/...)
2. Shows details of focused current node
3. Removes unintuitive abbreviations
4. Reduces visual clutter
5. blablabla ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: start-bounces at metagovernment.org
[mailto:start-bounces at metagovernment.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Praetorius
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:11 PM
To: 'Metagovernment Project'
Subject: Re: [MG] Talk bubbles for crossforum theatre

> Your idea of the pizza slices, was that to eliminate the complicated lines
in 
> the center (above), or in the periphery (attached)?  Or both?
Both :)

...
>> FIRST - (The Ugly Abbreviations) <<
I think a very very important thing is to get rid of the ugly abbreviations
(Bo. No. Rh. Aq. Pa. .....) we might try something like this:
http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2009/08/10/mbti-map/
http://www.neoformix.com/2007/OntarioElectionViz0.png
Right now, the abbreviations are absolutely meaningless. A person who's
looking at the visualization doesn't know what kind of information to
expect. Why would I want to navigate through the branches? What am I
searching for?
Maybe I'm searching for a branch where I could have more impact if I follow
that branch? ...what's (Bo. No. Rh. Aq. Pa...) all about?

>> SECONDLY - (Eagle's Persective) <<
I think the visualization we are talking about right now is more from a
chickens perspective... you navigate through the tree step by step. It's not
easy to see more than 3 or 4 branches at once, because at the moment, the
screen will become way to cluttered to understand the current visualization
with maybe 4 or 5 expanded "nodes".
So if we also will go for an overview visualization we might try something
like:
http://lip.sourceforge.net/ctreemap.html (circular treemap)
http://bund.offenerhaushalt.de/ (treemap)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/marc_smith/1474524836/ (treemap)
http://www.neoformix.com/2006/MLPC_p4.gif (sunburst diagram)
Another visualization combines circular treemap with crosslinks, but I don't
know if there is use for something like this
http://neoformix.com/2009/TorontoTwitterCommunity.html
http://www.neoformix.com/2009/ttcs_1.png
http://www.neoformix.com/2009/ttcs_2.png
http://www.neoformix.com/2009/TwitterEmployeeClusters.jpg

>> THIRDLY - (Different Approach) <<
A completely different approach might list all polls in a menu-like-list and
while you hover over the polls, they become highlighted in the main view.
The filled circles attached to each poll will show you the (Bo. No. Rh.....)
and their diameter will tell you how much votes they have donated:
http://www.neoformix.com/2008/AuthorLine.png

>> FOURTHLY - (TAG Approach) <<
The center of a branch could be written like a heading (eg. "America").
The "child nodes" could be written as weighted TAGs
(eg.states,president,...)
http://www.neoformix.com/2008/CloudComparison2.html#SummaryEnd
(Clicking a Tag will open a sub branch and the path from root node down to
the current branch could be shown through something like (root:G / p / moo /
Bo. / ...)
But please try to use meaningfull names  like (Global / Polls / Joe's Cow /
Boring Abbreviations / ...)

Other Stuff:
http://wallstats.com/deathandtaxes/ (mindmap with zoom&pan)
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/05/05/science/20080506_DISEASE.html
(zoomable node-link-diagram)
http://www.notcot.com/images/2008/04/Literary-Organism-Poster.jpg 

-----Original Message-----
From: start-bounces at metagovernment.org
[mailto:start-bounces at metagovernment.org] On Behalf Of Michael Allan
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 11:06 AM
To: start at metagovernment.org
Subject: Re: [MG] Talk bubbles for crossforum theatre

Thanks Alexander,

This drawing of the center came from one of your earlier suggestions:
http://zelea.com/project/votorola/a/crossforum/vote/_/1c.xht

I like it.  I think it's faster on the uptake than this one:
http://zelea.com/project/votorola/a/crossforum/vote/_/1.xht

Your idea of the pizza slices, was that to eliminate the complicated lines
in the center (above), or in the periphery (attached)?  Or both?

(Will reply to your other points, soon.  An, Ji, Th, etc. are  people's
names.)
--
Michael

PS - the SVG source is here if anyone else wants to draw:
http://zelea.com/project/votorola/a/crossforum/vote/VotespaceV.svg

Alexander Praetorius wrote:
> Wow :-)
> 
> It's getting better and better.
> I like the geomap and I also like the bubbles, which tell visitors its 
> real people talking and not just bots or something...
> 
> I still hate the abbreviations (Ge. Fr. An. ...) What's there meaning?
> Countries?
> Can't we then use flags and tell people the country's name when 
> hovering the flag?
> (What flag do we use for global  (G.)? Maybe a planet earth icon?) 
> Really, I think there must be something done about the annoying 
> abbreviations. They really look very nerdy and cryptic to an average 
> visitors eye.
> 
> I like the circles, the cyan navigation highlighting, the numbers and 
> the percentages :) I don't like all these lines because I think they 
> generate visual clutter and so do the ugly Abbreviations ;)
> 
> Maybe one could use colored pizza slices, where the intensity of the 
> used color indicates the percentage given to the "pizza center" by each
slice.
> 
> ...when a user nagivates through the branches of the tree, the active 
> circle maybe should go to the center of the screen while the former 
> circles should "fade out" or "shrink" a little ..or both? ...or they 
> should auto-move to the top of the screen, creating a "row of circles" 
> which are similar to G/p/bla ...
> ...they would just show the path a user took while navigating through 
> several branches of the tree.
> 
> 
> -
> Alex

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