StratML Narrative - Case Use of Votorola?

[Alex Rollin]

Hi Thomas!

Thabks for looking at the detail in the rules and commenting on them.   
Depending on the situation your amendments might be more appropriate,  
yes.

I had a conversation with Mike about what he called "vote processing"  
which is the filtering of votes on a poll/position witha custom voter  
list and a set of triggers like these rules and the ones you mention.

I made notes from the call wih Mike though theyare a bit messy.  You  
can find them on a sub page coming off my user page on the pollwiki.

My goal is to write all thse rules down as a function of vote  
processing, along with simple usr stories like what this blog post  
hints at.

In fact I'm not going to move much further ahead on vote processing  
until I spend more energy on crossforum theatre.  Mike and I spoke  
about it and it does seem the logical next step to xomplete the  
prototype.

At that point, prototype "complete," it will be easier to habe  
discussions about how vote processing could be implented.

Though I'm already a bit rusty from the call with Mike I am a bit  
clearer on the central position of the pollwiki paying more heed to  
Mike's caution of deisgning it out at this stage in the development.

Becaue of this I can see that a few requirements for the crossforum  
theatre ui would be an effort in the right direction of understanding  
how users will interact with the discussion created on a single  
pollserver, multiple areas or divisions, or even multiple pollservers.

The use case we discussed was to give a usr a notification that a diff  
bridge link has been posted to a mailman list that, and the diff eidge  
link is for a poll within an area in which the usrr is registered on  
the pollwiki.

I think stratml is great and I've sent the post to Owen for review,  
and he has sent it o n to others.

One step I do plan to make towars implementation iz to attempt to  
implement a stratml semantic form  in mediawiki. I'm at the early  
stages having just installed the sematic bundle on my mediaiwiki a  
couple days ago.  I still don't know much about it to tell the truth  
though and hope to make more progress in the coming month.  If anyone  
wants to jump in just let me know!

Once implemented it would be possible to use flaggedRevisions  
extention to implement a portion of the "active strategy document"  
idea outlined in the blog post.

Alex

On Oct 24, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Thomas von der Elbe <ThomasvonderElbe at gmx.de 
 > wrote:

> Hey Alex,
>
> I just read through your text. First, ofc it's easy to imagine how  
> Votorola comes into play. It's the perfect usecase for it.
>
> Then, Owen Ambur is one of the active makers of statml and also a  
> member in the metagov-list. We have been talking with him about  
> using stratml in Votorola.
>
> Then you write: 10. An active amendment that remains unopposed for  
> 30 days will be integrated into the active strategy document  
> immediately, creating a new version of the active strategy document
>
> I see a possible problem. E.g. three bad guys over-float the rest of  
> the group with countless active amandments, until they cannot keep  
> up opposing anymore. I would prefer a majority rule like: at least  
> 60% of the owners must vote for the amandment for at least 4 weeks.
>
> Then there is also no more use for: 2. A group of 3 or more owning  
> members may propose an amendment to the active strategy document.
>
> Because every single owner could propose one without harm.
>
> An additional good thing with Votorola would be: If an amandment can  
> not climb higher then 50% for instance, people can propose  
> improvements for the amandment. You know the tree: Improvements for  
> improvements for improvements for documents. Which pobably makes the  
> most sense, when the number of participants is getting higher.
>
> So it all sounds good! Are you actually going to do it? Or how far  
> are you already with the cafe?
>
> Mike is off-line for a few days, he'll probably reply later too.
>
> Thomas
>
>
> Alex Rollin schrieb:
>> I wrote this little piece today.  I've spoken in the past about  
>> what I
>> want to use Votorola for.  Basically I want touse it to draft things
>> democratically.
>>
>> I've been involved in a few conversations the last couple of days  
>> that
>> centered on "what is this group doing" in the context of several
>> groups.
>>
>> This little piece uses the drafting and redrafting of a StratML
>> document as the goal of what is basically a legislative process.
>>
>> When you read the piece you might imagine how Votorola would be used
>> for carrying out the voting and maintaining the draft.
>>
>> Well, that's the hope at least ;)
>>
>> I realize there are some mismatches, and I wrote it anyways!  Any and
>> all feedback welcome!
>>
>> http://alexrollin.com/content/stratml-production-groups
>>
>> Alex Rollin