Echo Claims to Have Global Reach

[Thomas von der Elbe]

Hey Anne,

> I also went to the Echo-Agora website. They claim to have a global 
> reach.  Here is a quote from their front page,
> *"echo* provides the technological basis for an open, *participatory 
> democracy* on the local, regional and global level.

They are not honest about that they only want to provide the technology 
but right now can not.

Concerning global level: I also often say, that the concept of Votorola 
from my perspective is capable for global use (even though we only have 
very few users now).

And this is a very important point to me. There are dozens of tools out 
there which are good for small groups. But I found in the last 2 years 
only one other tool capable of handling large groups: the 
UP-WorldGovernment. But it has a few other disadvanteges.

I also checked out the Korean one you wrote about and the second one 
too. Coulnt find a good concept there either. Maybe I dindt look deep 
enough. If you are interested: here is an overview I did over other 
tools in regard to the criteria which I find important (but in german). 
"Skalierg." means scalability:

http://wiki.liqd.net/Benutzer:Thomas_von_der_Elbe/Software-Vergleich

T




> Your voice finds here an echo. Ideas turn into movements, visions into 
> reality. echo means the *end of powerlessness* and the *beginning of 
> self-determination*." Sounds good. Maybe it is just propaganda????? 
> .http://www.echologic.org/
> Anne
>
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 5:37 AM, Thomas von der Elbe 
> <ThomasvonderElbe at gmx.de <mailto:ThomasvonderElbe at gmx.de>> wrote:
>
>     Hey Anne,
>
>     its not 300 projects but 70 or so, right? Or did I miss something?
>     What other projects did you find interesting?
>     I know Echo-Global-Agora and met these people a couple of times,
>     but they dont have much software yet and it seems to me, they also
>     have no concept for large scale collaboration and voting. When I
>     asked about it, they wouldnt tell me, because they are a buisness
>     and their investors want secrecy they said.
>
>     Thomas
>
>
>     Anne Moreland schrieb:
>
>         JAnne Joined to examine vitalizing-democracy projects and to
>         vote on some of them...already have seen some very interesting
>         ventures such as Echo-Global Acropolis ..very worth taking a
>         look at in terms of online voting praxis just for example.
>
>         On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Michael Allan <mike at zelea.com
>         <mailto:mike at zelea.com> <mailto:mike at zelea.com
>         <mailto:mike at zelea.com>>> wrote:
>
>            Thomas von der Elbe wrote:
>            > This looks perfect for us, doesnt it? Should we apply here:
>            >
>            >
>          
>          http://www.vitalizing-democracy.org/index.php?page=infopage&id_page=93&menucontext=3
>         <http://www.vitalizing-democracy.org/index.php?page=infopage&id_page=93&menucontext=3>
>          
>          <http://www.vitalizing-democracy.org/index.php?page=infopage&id_page=93&menucontext=3
>         <http://www.vitalizing-democracy.org/index.php?page=infopage&id_page=93&menucontext=3>>
>
>            Looks like we might not be eligible.  We'd have to be
>         involve with a
>            government:
>          
>          http://www.vitalizing-democracy.org/index.php?page=infopage&id_page=93&menucontext=3#answer_3
>         <http://www.vitalizing-democracy.org/index.php?page=infopage&id_page=93&menucontext=3#answer_3>
>          
>          <http://www.vitalizing-democracy.org/index.php?page=infopage&id_page=93&menucontext=3#answer_3
>         <http://www.vitalizing-democracy.org/index.php?page=infopage&id_page=93&menucontext=3#answer_3>>
>
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>            Michael Allan
>
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