[MG] Centralizing (1a)

[Thomas von der Elbe]

Yes, I agree about the navigation, this is better to make the future 
fragmentation of the wiki even more clear.
And I also agree, that it is best to leave as much of the 
(administrative, political) decisions to the single wikis as possible.

T



Michael Allan schrieb:
> Hey Thomas,
>
>   
>> Is it maybe a good idea, to have a single and seperate page in the
>> wiki for navigation, where a link "Other Areas" on every area-page
>> could link to? This nav-page could later be copied into every
>> seperate wiki.
>>     
>
> Myself, I don't think it would gain us anything.  And I think it might
> set the wrong example - leaning on a technical crutch (the temporary
> central wiki) in order to solve a political problem (consensus on area
> nav).  It's not a big deal, but I think a better way (just to
> illustrate) is:
>
>   http://u.zelea.com/w/G/nav
>   http://u.zelea.com/w/De/nav
>
> Here the users of a global area (G) and a national area (De) have
> posted different nav solutions.  Users everywhere are free to try
> both, and to decide for themselves which is better - or better yet,
> which *are the most complementary* (multiple nav pages could work
> together).  So federal area De/ may provide for nav among German state
> areas, while each state area provides for nav among its own city
> areas.  Mostly this will be written in German, though parts of it
> might be internationalizable.  (Non-geographic areas will have other
> navigation solutions, no telling which.)
>
> Meantime, here's a plain-jane area nav that's built into the wiki:
> http://u.zelea.com/w/Category:Area
>
> More generally, we could use the same pattern for all
> politically-charged structuring (rules, procedures and so forth).  We
> keep that structuring out of the commons, so the foundation stays
> neutral, boring and purely technical - more fit to be shared by
> everyone.  And with no needless political centralization, the
> technical foundation is less likely to become needlessly or improperly
> fragmented in future.  (Unlike with pollservers, we can't range freely
> across pollwikis and streetwikis.)
>
> Just to underline, this is not intended to be a central wiki:
>  
>   http://u.zelea.com/w
>
> The real wikis - the lines along which we intend to fragment as we
> mature - are the political areas (states, cities, organizations, and
> so forth):
>
>   http://u.zelea.com/w/DD
>   http://u.zelea.com/w/De
>   http://u.zelea.com/w/G
>   http://u.zelea.com/w/Tor
>   . . . and so on, add your own
>
>   
>>> Any page-specific images that are needed may be uploaded in the
>>> usual way and inserted as page content.
>>>       
>> I know how to upload. But I dont get the syntax to work. What is wrong 
>> with: <includeonly>{{#logotipo:File:World.png}}</includeonly><noinclude> ?
>>     
>
> For setting the top-left "logo" image?  I didn't mention, but I'll
> take care of that when I remove logotipo, maybe tomorrow.  Meantime,
> external images are OK.
>
> Or for inserting images as page content?  Here for example:
> http://u.zelea.com/w/User:ThomasvonderElbe_GmxDe/G/p/frvp
> When logotipo is removed, that silouette image won't render.  You'll
> want to move it into the page content.  For inserting images, see:
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images