I see Mike has been making some great additions to the Crossforum page: <a href="http://u.zelea.com/w/User:Alex.rollin-GmailCom/Crossforum">http://u.zelea.com/w/User:Alex.rollin-GmailCom/Crossforum</a> -- Alex “It’s no longer possible for a country to collapse in isolation. Now we all collapse. The only path to stability is to equalize the consumption rates of the first and developing world. Our dream is no longer possible in the new world.” - Jared Diamond March 2010 <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Michael Allan <<a href="mailto:mike@zelea.com">mike@zelea.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> Alex understands the top-level design of the prototype. I think he also has domain requirements similar to yours David, because it appears that his use cases place similar stresses on the design. You guys should talk, as Alex says. David you mention "common goals". Just quickly, here are my longstanding goals: 1. Start building the theory. a) Explore and document the theory in academic papers. b) Open a discourse with academics and other theoreticians. 2. Finish prototyping the practice. a) Put the architectural documents in proper form. b) Prototype a UI client, such as crossforum theatre (hard). c) Prototype free-range drafting (easy). Alex may also need 2a and 2b, so we're trying to coordinate. I hope to start shifting my work in that direction by next week. (Just need to catch up on emails Alex (including yours) and post a theory outline first.) Same for you David. If you need anything under 1 or 2, then we can try to coordinate. But my intial impression is that you have other priorities ("delivering an outcome for a client") and you see 1 and 2 as premature. David Bovill wrote: > ... the scope of any such project can easily be limited to <div class="im">> delivering an outcome for a client - after which everyone can go > back to their own thing taking whatever code, assets and experiences > were generated by the work (as these would be open). </div>Without a complete, functional prototype we have nothing in principle to deliver to anyone, never mind a paying client (if that's the hope). We're still exploring the design possiblities, still pioneering. I doubt we're anywhere near any kind of a production stage, yet. But I guess it depends on what we put into it. So if you want to accelerate things, please consider putting stuff into the prototyping effort - "after which", as you say, "everyone can go back to their own thing" - you to your clients, Alex to his co-ops, I to my theory, and so forth. <div class="im"> -- Michael Allan Toronto, +1 647-436-4521 <a href="http://zelea.com/" target="_blank">http://zelea.com/</a> </div><div><div></div><div class="h5">-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Votorola" group. To post to this group, send an email to <a href="mailto:votorola@googlegroups.com">votorola@googlegroups.com</a>. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to <a href="mailto:votorola%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com">votorola+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com</a>. For more options, visit this group at <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/votorola?hl=en-GB" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/votorola?hl=en-GB</a>. </div></div></blockquote></div> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Votorola" group. To post to this group, send an email to votorola@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to votorola+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/votorola?hl=en-GB.