Hi Mike, I needed to check the box above the Frag before pressing the patch would work just to let you know. I am going on to step five in a couple of minutes. <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 6:13 AM, Michael Allan <<a href="mailto:mike@zelea.com">mike@zelea.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">So we're on step 3: <a href="http://u.zelea.com/w/User:Mike-ZeleaCom/Guerilla_gardening#Practise_run" target="_blank">http://u.zelea.com/w/User:Mike-ZeleaCom/Guerilla_gardening#Practise_run</a> <div class="im"> Anne Moreland wrote: > I think it sounds very promising. Should I login here </div>(Note: when you login next, just click "Keep me logged in". It makes it easier.) <div class="im"> > <a href="http://u.zelea.com:8080/v/w/Diff?b=3850&a=3848" target="_blank">http://u.zelea.com:8080/v/w/Diff?b=3850&a=3848</a> and follow standard > procedures namely click Frag 1 upper left corner then click patch </div>> lower left? ... Only patch it if you agree with the changes, at least roughly. You can make corrections in your own draft afterwards - step 5. If you don't agree, or if anything's unclear, it's always best to say so straight out. > ... Do I then gently debate your position as opposed to stridently <div class="im">> debating etc..or do I just agree and mirror your position....in other words > are we the dialogical team in this exercise or voter/votee? </div>We try to reach agreement, but only where we sincerely can. If we keep going then we'll end up disagreeing, at some point, and we'll have to discuss our differences (literally). If we learn do it well - whether strident or gentle, whatever's best - it'll be attractive to others. They'll want to join us in discussing the details, and maybe even posting differences of their own. (That's our overriding goal, to attract new drafters/candidates. The seed germinates with the first one attracted.) I'll reply to your other points soon, in a separate thread. I don't want to sidetrack this one. You already know, ofc, but just a reminder (I've forgotten myself, in the past): be sure to speak with a trusted friend or advisor before investing any money. ;-) -- <div class="im">Michael Allan Toronto, +1 647-436-4521 <a href="http://zelea.com/" target="_blank">http://zelea.com/</a> </div><div class="im">> Mike I am very excited about something I need to share with you which is > relevant to what we are doing at Votorola,,, I am joining Open Source > Ecology. It is relevant because the open source farm I intend can bring > votorola to the community from within a community and provide another > real-time context for Votorola-praxis! > <a href="http://openfarmtech.org/weblog" target="_blank">http://openfarmtech.org/weblog</a> Marcin Jakubowski Ph. D, sent me a mailing > address so I wouldn't need to use credit cards or paypal for my membership > fees. I am looking to buy some land. Alex belongs to this group too in fact > I heard about it from his blog. Keep up the good work Mike!!!!!!!!! > Key Links: > </div>> 1. How to Build a Post-Scarcity > Village<<a href="http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2009/09/ose-presence-at-paraflows-festival-in-vienna/" target="_blank">http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2009/09/ose-presence-at-paraflows-festival-in-vienna/</a>>– > 5 min video > 2. OSE featured in Plenitude: New Economics of Real > Wealth<<a href="http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2010/07/plenitude-the-new-economics-of-true-wealth/" target="_blank">http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2010/07/plenitude-the-new-economics-of-true-wealth/</a>>– > 3 min video > 3. Economy in a > Box<<a href="http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2010/07/economy-in-a-box-presentation-report/" target="_blank">http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2010/07/economy-in-a-box-presentation-report/</a>>presentation > – 45 min video > 4. Progress on the ground – > tractor<<a href="http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2010/07/lifetrac-ii-frame-2/" target="_blank">http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2010/07/lifetrac-ii-frame-2/</a>>, > CEB press <<a href="http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2010/06/full-product-release/" target="_blank">http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2010/06/full-product-release/</a>>, > hole puncher<<a href="http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2010/07/open-source-150-ton-hole-puncher/" target="_blank">http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2010/07/open-source-150-ton-hole-puncher/</a>>, > torch table<<a href="http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2010/01/reptab-open-source-torch-table-in-make-zine/" target="_blank">http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2010/01/reptab-open-source-torch-table-in-make-zine/</a>>, > crowd funding<<a href="http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2010/07/getting-ready-to-build-a-better-future/" target="_blank">http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2010/07/getting-ready-to-build-a-better-future/</a>> -- <div><div></div><div class="h5">You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Votorola" group. 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