AG Meinungsfindungstool

Michael Allan mike at zelea.com
Tue Oct 16 01:59:20 EDT 2012


Hey Thomas,

I wish they'd help us with the old split consensus problem (as you
once called it), but I hesitate to suggest it.

-- 
Michael Allan

Toronto, +1 416-699-9528
http://zelea.com/


Thomas von der Elbe said:
> Hello, especially the beginning of the Pirate-meeting yesterday might be 
> interesting for you. This group is all about interconnecting different 
> tools.
> 
> 
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Betreff: 	[Ag Meinungsfindungstool] [STATUSINFO] Piratenpartei 
> Deutschland - AG Meinungsfindungstool - Mumble Treffen (Demokratietool 
> Evaluation)
> Datum: 	Thu, 4 Oct 2012 09:58:55 +0200
> Von: 	marc <marc at merkstduwas.de>
> Antwort an: 	marc <marc at merkstduwas.de>, 
> ag-meinungsfindungstool at lists.piratenpartei.de
> Organisation: 	merkst Du was?
> An: 	Piraten AG Meinungsfindungstool 
> <ag-meinungsfindungstool at lists.piratenpartei.de>, AG Liquid Democracy 
> <ag-liquid-democracy at lists.piratenpartei.de>
> Kopie (CC): 	info at liqd.net, Metagovernment Project 
> <start at metagovernment.org>
> 
> 
> 
> Ahoi,
> 
> Yesterday our spontaneous mumble session took place. Main topic was
> "Presentation of various Concepts and Ideas regarding Opinion Forming".
> 
> The notes to the session can be found here:
> http://meinungsfindungstool.piratenpad.de/2012-10-03-Notizen
> 
> We also recorded the session and you can download the audio here:
> http://bayfiles.com/file/mUgZ/1IjnH9/Mumble-2012-10-03-21-20-04-mumble.piratenpartei-nrw.de-Mixdown.mp3
> 
> 
> WHAT HAPPENED?
> 
> After a short round of introductions to each attendee, Slash gave a short
> overview of the current status of our working group 'AG
> Meinungsfindungstool': he expressed, that from our point of view, the
> process of decision-making can be seperated into three interacting systems:
> Information, Discussion and Decision System. Our working group deals with
> all questions regarding the Discussion System.
> 
> Then we talked about the intention of coming together and the current
> problems we face with Liquid Feedback and other tools of this genre.
> 
> The highlight of the session was definetely Pietros presentation of Vilfredo
> goes to Athens (Vilfredo.org), especially the concept of Pareto Front. This
> is a realy amazing tooling for automated moderation of discussions. But with
> some drawbacks also.
> 
> You should listen to our audio recording to learn more about the concept and
> ideas Pietro talked about!
> 
> 
> WHAT IS COMING NEXT?
> 
> We plan to have a single session for each concept or idea to be presented.
> The main intention is to get closer in touch with different projects and
> learn more about other concepts and iedeas.
> 
> 
> WHEN WE MEET AGAIN?
> 
> The next session is coming on Monday, 8th October 2012 at 9.30pm (CET+2). In
> this session Ronald is giving us a deep inside into his concept of
> "Democracy 2.0".
> 
> 
> If you have any queries, don't hesitate to contact our working group!
> 
> Cheers
> marc



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