Direct democracy

Martin Gustavsson martingustavsson72 at gmail.com
Thu Feb 21 06:24:49 EST 2008


The members of Aktiv Demokrati sitting in parliament acts in accordance to
the proportional result of the vote in the party itself. It is controlled by
the people directly and the people may  also delegate in whatever way they
want and change it anytime they like within this system.
I would vote for this system because it gives me maximum control. It gives
me possibility to delegate and to vote directly in any issue. I will through
this system keep my mandate and the responsibility the whole mandate period.
- I like it.

A system like yours I would not even consider, because I know how corruption
works.
Then again, I was politically active in a "normal" party and saw it with my
own eyes.

2008/2/21, Michael Allan <mike at zelea.com>:
>
>
> Martin Gustavsson wrote:
> >
> > For me it is clear that your system does NOT support the idea of
> > direct democracy at the moment.
> > If, however it is used somehow to delegate within a direct democratic
> > party/organisation it would.
>
>
> In that case, let's leave aside terminology (on which we disagree),
> and consider a concrete scenario:
>
> Stockholm, Summer-Fall 2008
> ---------------------------
>
> A local resident (volunteer administrator) sets up an electoral
> server, and calls an open election for Mayor of Stockholm.  (Assume
> that Mayor is a directly elected office, and that any citizen is
> eligible.)  In addition to the mayoral election, the administrator
> allows open policy elections (citizen initiatives) to proceed in
> parallel.  These elections proceed roughly as described here
> (scenarios 1 and 2):
>
> http://zelea.com/project/votorola/a/design.xht#scenario-1
>
> Suppose that one of the policy elections attains a consensus.  A good
> many residents across the city (a quorum) are actively voting in it.
> A large majority has voted in favour of a particular document, a
> particular policy position (the consensus policy), and general opinion
> has it (suppose) that this consensus policy is the true expression of
> the will of Stockholm's residents.
>
> Questions:
>
> If a member of Aktivdemokrati were sitting on the Municipal Assembly,
> how would she act, do you think?  Would she act in support of the
> consensus policy?
>
> How would the remainder of the Assembly act, in general?  Would they
> act in support of the consensus policy?  Or against it?  Or would they
> just ignore it?
>
> If you were a politician who sought to become Mayor of Stockholm,
> would you seek your nomination among the members of a political party
> (using the party's electoral system)?  Or would you seek it among the
> residents of Stockholm (using their electoral system)?  Or both?
>
>
> --
> Michael Allan
>
> http://zelea.com/
>
>
> >
>


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